There you go. I might be the last speaker before we go line by line on this, and I want to thank my colleagues around the table for dealing with this issue. I was one of the members on the government side who voted for this bill to move forward to committee. I've been very clear with the folks who have come to see me in my office that it was to be given to committee so we could have a discussion on the issue.
I frankly don't believe it will ever pass in its present form, but that doesn't mean it is not an issue we need to resolve. I don't really have a question for Mr. Schwartz, but I want to thank him for his description. It was very clear. I think we've heard from a number.... It's like anything in the law; that's why there are always lawyers on both sides of the table.
There is some risk here. I don't necessarily agree with Mr. Masse's approach that just because there are no penalties, we can go ahead and do something and then fix it after. I think that would be a bad message for my children, and it is for the Government of Canada. So I'm not buying into that.
I do have two questions, and maybe Mr. Jenner can answer one of them for me. What's bothering me most is that we've heard that there are a number of these CAMR regimes all over the world. There are 30 or 33 of them, and none of them seem to be working. Since he's representing an international organization, does he have any comment on why they're not working at present, or is there something we should be doing from an international perspective that we haven't heard yet to make these regimes...?