We've had a lot of discussion about the different pension plans, but one of the points that hasn't come up--and I'd ask the researcher to come up with some figures for us--is how many plans have failed in Canada in the last 10 years. Let's make it the last 11 years, because we haven't had a new defined benefit plan in 11 years. Let's just use that as a point of reference. We'll look at defined benefit and defined contribution, just so we have a handle on what we're making the decision for, because we're basically rushing toward one flagship case. I'm not minimizing the losses or putting them aside, but I'd like to know the scope of what our decision will affect and what we can see coming up.
On December 2nd, 2010. See this statement in context.