Evidence of meeting #1 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean Michel Roy

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I have different wording, but I don't know if it says anything different here. I'll read my wording, and if there's a difference in what I'm saying maybe the clerk can highlight it for me.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Okay.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

My wording is that only the clerk of the committee be authorized to distribute to members of the committee any documents, including motions, and that all documents that are to be distributed among the committee members must be in both official languages. The clerk shall advise all witnesses appearing before committee of this requirement.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

So it includes the word "motions". Is it substantively the same, other than the part about motions?

4:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Mr. Chair, it doesn't change much: "any documents" includes motions. Everything will be in both official languages, no matter what kind of document.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

All right.

Is there any discussion on that?

Mr. Masse.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I have a question for the clerk.

Does that prohibit then making motions at the meeting?

No? Okay.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

No, it does not at all, if it's germane to the business at hand.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Yes.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Do you need it read again, or are you okay with it?

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

I think that was unanimous.

Congratulations, Mr. Lake.

Next is "working meals": that the clerk of the committee be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the committee and its subcommittees.

This happens when we run into circumstances such that we are going over lunchtime and then we end up quickly after that in question period and those kinds of things.

Mr. Julian, did you have a comment?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

No.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Lake.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Again, I note that it is kind of different from what we had adopted last time. I'm not sure why it is, but I'll read what we had last time: that the committee hereby authorize the clerk of the committee, in consultation with the chair, to make the necessary arrangements to provide for working meals, as may be required, and that the cost of these meals be charged to the committee budget.

It sounds like what you read, but for some reason it's different in terms of what we had last time.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I think the only difference is "in consultation with the chair".

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Is that important to you, Mr. Chair?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

I have found Jean Michel to be extraordinary in these things, and I would certainly cede any authority to him in this case.

Are we okay to go with the original motion here, then?

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

Yes, we will go with the original.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

It looks as though it's unanimous again. I can see by the nodding heads.

(Motion agreed to) [See Minutes of Proceedings]

That's great. Thank you, folks.

Next is "travel, accommodation and living expenses of witnesses": that, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation, and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses, not exceeding two representatives per organization; and that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the chair.

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

I so move.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

By the way, I think only in extenuating circumstances do you have two people from the organization. We generally are conscious of that when we're dealing with expenses.

Madam Gallant, did you have a...?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

I have a question.

Does this committee plan out its budgets for its studies beforehand, or does it just pass a budget after it's already decided how many witnesses it's going to have?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

I think in the past when we've drawn up a work program the clerk has submitted a budget.

In fact, your budgets have always had enough room so that we're clear on the....

4:15 p.m.

The Clerk

Yes.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Thank you.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

If anything, the budget has a little bit of a margin so that we make sure we stay within the realm of what we have on hand.

(Motion agreed to)

Our next motion deals with access to in camera meetings. This might be of concern to some people. I'll read what's in front of me here, and then, Mr. Lake, you can comment on it: that, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be allowed to have one staff member present from their office or from their party at in camera meetings.

I'm certain there are amendments to that.

Is that right, Mr. Lake?