Evidence of meeting #1 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Jean Michel Roy

4 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Lake, could you go over that again, just so we understand the speaking order and the time allocation in your proposal?

4 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Sure. Do you want me to read the whole motion one more time, or do you want me to just explain it?

4 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Explain it.

4 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Mr. Clerk, if I explain it in a way that isn't consistent with the way I wrote it, please let me know if you can.

There would be four questions for the first round of seven minutes each, and they would go Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal. Then the next round would have seven five-minute questions---

4 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Is it seven or five?

4 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

It's seven five-minute questioning rounds, so seven times five. There are seven members each speaking and each having five minutes, which would go Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative. That way every member of the committee gets one round to ask questions before anybody gets a second. Of course if you want to transfer your time, you can do so within your own party, or whatever the case is.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Masse.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

If my memory serves me correctly, the first round was basically seven minutes for each party, and then we moved into the five-minute round. I think that's more in keeping with the traditions of the committee.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

We had four parties, though, so there were four questions in the first round at that time. This is consistent with that.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

But it was based on that principle. We sort of adopted a bit more the practice of trying to get every member involved. That was new over the last couple of years. I don't know if it would be a friendly amendment, but we could do Conservative, NDP, Liberal and then move to the five-minute slot of Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative, NDP, Conservative.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

No.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

That's not what has been done in the past.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

If you want to go back to the NDP getting two rounds, as has been done in the past, we could.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

We're past that.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

We're in a different world now, I think.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON

We're past the past.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Is there any more conversation?

Sorry, Mr. Julian.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

That's quite all right.

I think Mr. Masse's friendly amendment is actually an appropriate one, because that is how we've been governed at the committee level. That being said, it looks as though the third round then replicates the first round. If we're looking at a one-minute presentation, we're looking at an hour and a half. We would basically have time for that third round, which would be then Conservative, NDP, Conservative, Liberal.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I can't remember the last time we actually got to the end of a third round of questioning in this committee. Typically, if we have had a little bit of extra time it has been just the first two. So it would be Conservative and then NDP, and that would be it.

June 15th, 2011 / 4:05 p.m.

NDP

Glenn Thibeault NDP Sudbury, ON

Could you not put in there “at the discretion of the chair”? Was that a different motion in that motion?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Exactly. If time permits, further rounds shall repeat the pattern of the first two at the discretion of the chair. That's sort of the way it's always been.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Seeing no further discussion, all in favour?

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Could you just read the motion one last time?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

What are we voting on?

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

We're going to find out right now. Mr. Lake is going to reread it now, and then we'll vote.