I'm afraid I'm going to be frustrating again. I really feel bad about it, but again, on the refining end of the industry, it's really CPPI. Mr. Boag and those folks represent the refiners, we do not. I could not even venture to guess, because it's not something I follow day to day, what the refining capacity utilization is in Canada.
On June 22nd, 2011. See this statement in context.