Evidence of meeting #67 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sector.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

John Knubley  Deputy Minister, Department of Industry
Iain Stewart  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategic Policy Sector, Department of Industry
Marie-Josée Thivièrge  Assistant Deputy Minister, Small Business, Tourism and Marketplace Services, Department of Industry

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

That's perfect. I have my answer.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

I trust the Canadian Tourism Commission and Ms. McKenzie, who is the President and CEO—

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

She said the commission was underfunded. That is what she told me when I met her.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

Despite those cuts, she will manage to do her job.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

The SMEs are doing—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Mr. Lapointe.

Minister—

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

Ms. McKenzie has been at the Canadian Tourism Commission for several years now. She has proven her expertise.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

We do not have much time, minister.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

If you want to talk about cuts, then I am going to answer you.

The commission has had special budgets over the years, for the Olympic Games and other events.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

We are talking about the latest budgets.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

Those special budgets expire—

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

We only have five minutes. So I beg you, minister—

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Order.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

That is why funding of $58 million is now allocated to the Canadian Tourism Commission.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Order, please. We're televised and we also have translation, so when you go argumentatively, the translators can't keep up and there's no way for those who are watching to understand.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Please go ahead and finish your answer, Minister Bernier.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

I believe I answered the question.

To be more specific, if you look at the changes in the Canadian Tourism Commission's budget, you will see that funding has been allocated to certain specific events, such as $26 million over five years for the programs related to the Olympic Games. However, the Olympic Games are over, and that funding is therefore exhausted.

Special funding in the amount of $48 million was allocated to the economic stimulus program in 2009 and 2010.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Minister, you are talking about previous budgets. Here we are talking about budget 2013.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

The economic stimulus is over. There is a recovery in Canada. It is fragile, but it is nevertheless there. A special $5 million fund was allocated to the commission to promote—

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Minister, allow me to turn to another subject.

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

—the 100th anniversary of the Calgary Stampede. That event is over. Funding was allocated to special events, and those are now over.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

Let us talk about SMEs and labour-sponsored investment funds.

The Canadian Venture Capital and Private Equity Association is opposed to the cuts made to the labour-sponsored funds tax credit. The Fédération des chambres de commerce du Québec and even the Fondation de l'entrepreneurship say this has come at the worst time.

Do you think those organizations are incompetent?

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Conservative

Maxime Bernier Conservative Beauce, QC

Like you, they have their point of view. I am not saying that you are incompetent, but you have a viewpoint that differs from mine. I do not call people incompetent when their viewpoint differs from that of the government.

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NDP

François Lapointe NDP Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup, QC

How do you justify the fact that these cuts have been implemented whereas the industry as a whole, the SMEs in Quebec in particular, believes that this is a very bad decision?