For the telecommunications and broadcasting industry, we've estimated it at nearly a half a billion dollars. It consists of two groups in our report, which you don't have before you, but which is available on our website in both languages. Of those Canadians who purchase either telephone or broadcasting services and don't have access to the Internet or use computers, we estimate it at $65 million per year. If two in ten of the other customers who do have Internet still choose to receive a paper bill, and that's an estimate on our part, it's another $363 million, to which we add, depending on your province, federal and provincial tax. You're in the neighbourhood of $450 million to $500 million per year.
We don't know, Mr. Lake, how many consumers take paper billing, even though they have the Internet, because the companies wouldn't tell us. So that's an estimate that we've put in our report, which is available on our website.