Industry Committee on Dec. 2nd, 2013

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Yes, we just need the wording.

[Judy Sgro, Liberal, York West, ON]

Mr. Chair, could I suggest that we hold that amendment while the member puts it in writing—

[Chris Charlton, NDP, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

He has it in writing.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

It's in writing.

[Judy Sgro, Liberal, York West, ON]

Did you get it already?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Yes, we have it.

[Chris Charlton, NDP, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

We write fast.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

This is not a subamendment. It's actually quite substantially different, so it would have to be a stand-alone amendment.

We'd have to defeat this—what's before us—and then we'd have to deal with that separately.

Do you want the paper back?

[Chris Charlton, NDP, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

I do.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

You don't want to move it, then?

[Chris Charlton, NDP, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

Well, we might, but we're dealing with something else right now, so I need the piece of paper back.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

All right.

Shall Liberal-3 carry?

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Go ahead, Madame Quach.

[Anne Minh-Thu Quach, NDP, Beauharnois—Salaberry, QC]

I have another amendment to introduce regarding the recommendation requiring that electronic copies be kept. It would be quite simple, in fact. We could suggest an amendment so that the bill is amended by replacing the words on line 25 with “may destroy, after a digital copy has been created”.

Would you like me to reread it more slowly?

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Yes, once more.

[Chris Charlton, NDP, Hamilton Mountain, ON]

It's worth the wait: this one will pass.

[Some hon. members]

Oh, oh!

[Ed Holder, Conservative, London West, ON]

Actually, Chris, I thought a verbal friendly amendment could take place. It seemed logical, but apparently not.

[Anne Minh-Thu Quach, NDP, Beauharnois—Salaberry, QC]

The amendment would read as follows:

That Bill C-8, in Clause 28, be amended by replacing line 22 on page 23 to line 26 on page 24 with "may destroy, after a digital copy has been created”.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Madam Sgro.

[Judy Sgro, Liberal, York West, ON]

I have a question for the staff. Was that not part of the intent as well? You're moving into doing things on a digital basis and you're not going to need the paper records. Was that not part of that same discussion?

[Paul Halucha]

The ability to actually have filings in electronic form is absolutely something that's supported by this legislation.

[Judy Sgro, Liberal, York West, ON]

Right. So that's where we're going, anyway.

[Paul Halucha]

But it's the cost of moving documents from written from into digital form that have no value. I think that's the point.

[Judy Sgro, Liberal, York West, ON]

Thank you.

[The Chair, Conservative, David Sweet]

Any other questions or comments on the amendment?