I find this difficult. We started this whole process of Bill C-8 saying that we have to get through this in four meetings and it's hugely important. I agree given that there's been a 400% increase in the amount of counterfeiting going on, with all kinds of issues. Canada's getting a black eye because we don't have legislation, even if it's the minimum that we're putting into this one....
I guess I should be talking through the chair here. Either we're going to deal it or we're not going to deal with it. It seems to me that we're just saying that we're going to get serious about counterfeiting—but it's okay if I bring back two Coach purses that are counterfeit.
When I was in Europe this summer, I was told that if I were to purchase any of the purses or other things that were being sold in various locations, I would be subject to a $150 fine. They decided that the only way to deal with this was to go after the person purchasing it. That's what I'm told they decided in Europe. But we're going to say that it's okay if you bring back a half a dozen Coach purses or whatever it is, because we're only after the big guys.
I think it sends the wrong message. I think we should be getting tough on this stuff if it's having an impact on the government, if we want money. And we want people paying taxes. We want companies paying taxes. This way nobody is paying any taxes to the government and we're just going to allow it to go on.
I know we can all argue both sides of this issue. I just think if we're serious, then let's get serious.