We benefit today from having Wanda Noel, who was actually present during that, who can speak better to the comments of the minister of the time. In terms of the hundreds of millions of dollars of copies that we've seen used— that number—I do think it's important to question where that number comes from. We have not seen evidence on our side showing that this is an accurate figure. In terms of what we do know, based on the Federal Court of Appeal assessment and the Copyright Board assessment, 98% of copying that happens in this country in the education system is within the parameters of fair dealing.
We don't know where that number comes from. I think it's important to have a better understanding of where that number comes from.