I can certainly do that.
Our affiliation with Access Copyright is really through the individual firms that are members of the Publishers' Council. Pearson Canada, for example, would be an affiliate of Access Copyright. It would therefore be in receipt of royalties from Access Copyright that reflect the model of usage for those resources that are used in the education sector under collective licensing, which as we know, has now been greatly reduced in Canada.
The figure of $30 million that I mentioned in my remarks, I think, has been in front of this committee before. It's a fairly good estimate of the income that flowed through Access Copyright to both publishers and creators in the sector over the course of many years when collective licensing was more prevalent than it is today. Half of that $30 million would essentially flow back to creators, individual writers, and other contributors. The other half would effectively reside with publishers for decisions around reinvestment in Canadian content.
That was the gist of my remarks around investment, that contribution back to publishers and creators—in my members' case, to publishers—is critical to support the return on investment that they can expect to find in a Canadian marketplace. That's what we would like to see restored through legislative change.