Thanks, Mr. Chair.
Thanks again to all of you for your patience today, as well as for being here.
Mr. Swail, I want to continue down the road about the educational use of copying. Since 2012, a lot of schools have stopped paying educational copying tariffs to the copyright collectives. Schools contend that while their practices have changed, they remain respectful of copyright, but authors and publishers are saying that their revenues are dropping. Some of that might be because of the change of use of materials. We see your graphs showing the declining purchase of textbooks, which are different from the curves we saw last week.
In terms of the act that we're reviewing, what are your views on educational copying? You made a comment earlier about the undermining of collective licences. I keep thinking collective licences might be part of the solution that we might want to be looking at within the act.