—and the sales of media or devices. Looking backwards at sales of smart phones and tablets, which are now used for copying music quite extensively, we just did the simple math. But certainly, as we said, the rate itself would be established by the Copyright Board with regard to evidence on the extent of the use of those media and devices for copying music. The rate gets set, the sales are what they are, and that's what determines the revenue. We're just trying to give a sense of one way of looking at the impact of not having maintained a technologically neutral levy regime.
On June 14th, 2018. See this statement in context.