In Mr. Stohn's case, we are talking about audiovisual. I can come back to that. This is about audio. The value has definitely decreased. The 2012 amendments to the act have cost us an incredible amount of money in many areas. I'm thinking of commercial radio and digital, for example, which we talked about. When we used to sell albums on tangible media, we had figures. In the case of downloads, it's very low.
So there are a lot of changes. You were talking about quotas. That isn't what we're discussing here, but it's important. It's also about exemptions and value. In terms of value, it isn't normal that the rate for downloads and streaming is between 13% and 15% in Europe, while it is 7% in Canada. I don't blame the board, but there must be other ways of looking at the market.
When online music services began to be offered, other countries took Canada as a model. Indeed, the first rate we set was the highest in the world. However, it's now one of the lowest. Something's not working.
I would like to make a brief comment about audiovisual. I don't know much about screenwriters, but when it comes to people who commission music, I want to say that they don't have to give up all their rights to producers and broadcasters if they want to increase their remuneration. That is the current audiovisual business model.
Mr. Stohn talked about his negotiations with the United States. Indeed, that is how they work. However, this isn't the case in Europe. There, the creators give all the exploitation rights to the producers, but no copyright is given to the producers, whose role is to collect royalties.
I, for one, am a member of the International Confederation of Societies of Authors and Composers, and I know that Canada has one of the lowest per capita collections in the world. In Europe, everyone contributes to this, especially in the digital world. We're not just talking about Netflix and all the networks, but secondary uses.
According to the current audiovisual model, the creator is paid very little. Everything goes to the producer, who assumes a risk. I'm aware of that, but there is a nuance to be made. Let's say that digital brings us to think about this business model.