We've certainly heard this and we find it very interesting.
First of all, I think you must know that many of the radio stations that are under the CAB umbrella are small stations. Almost 60% of these stations are small stations.
As for the stations that are owned by bigger ownership groups, they still remain small stations, but they obviously benefit from being part of a larger constituency. What happens there is that when we talk before committees like this one, radio is seen to have a sole operation, which is the great support it gives to artists and the cultural sector, but when you look at a broader range, where radio really does very well, you see that it's one of the last media outlets to provide reliable and professional news and information to Canadians wherever they are.
Many newspapers have closed. OTA stations have closed. What happens is that larger groups that have larger stations subsidize the smaller stations of the group for them to be able to provide those broader services to Canadians, in addition to the great support for artists and the cultural sector.