The first one is the charitable exemption. You had some submissions by, I believe, SOCAN and perhaps some others regarding limitations to be put onto the charitable exemption. The charitable exemption has been in our act for almost a hundred years. The only major litigation about it was in the 1940s involving Casa Loma and concerts they put on and this kind of thing.
I represent a number of charities that operate under the charitable exemption. The reason they do is not because their charity is registered under the Income Tax Act, but because their charitable charter specifically says they put on musical presentations. That's what they do. The charitable exemption is specifically intended to deal with their activities, yet SOCAN has continued to argue that, no, it doesn't, because of these restrictions, which now they claim are implied and they're asking you to put in.
In my submission, there are all sorts of things: musical programs, symphonies, church and school groups. They're all going to be very seriously hindered if that change is made.
My friend, Bob Tarantino, came before you and talked about reversion of copyright and suggested taking out the reversion provision. I know Bob well—