Sure. I think the best example of this is what's happening in Windsor. On one hand, St. Clair College has a very big program with 700 students enrolled per year. They are the biggest local source of tool, die, and mould makers. But, of course, you work at a pace where you get them through the college program and then they have to apprentice and then we see whether they get poached. There's so much demand. They move around. A company down there is a supplier named Valiant, and in partnership with the CTMA, has run a program sponsored by the provincial government on a smaller scale giving 40 weeks of on-the-floor training in a shop owned by a private company where they pay minimum wage, plus the training, plus a set of tools. It was originally set up for a pipeline for Valiant's operations, and now Valiant, I think, is training people for its competition.
There is some discussion about how you put the two together—what Valiant does on the floor with certification at St. Clair—but there's obviously a need for a hybrid solution there.