Yes, that would be in the lending they do, the investments they do on their own in venture capital and the VCAP.
There are three different segments, and maybe, in all the three, I should say that the amount that is going into manufacturing is quite small. Even the amounts that are going in are basically going into companies that have been around for quite some time and have a good track record.
What we're talking about here is support to start-ups in manufacturing.