Evidence of meeting #1 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was proc.
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12:15 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
A point of order, Chair.
For clarification, because routine motions always come back to haunt us, I would suggest that my colleague formally move the entirety of this, that you open it up for debate and that we vote on the motion, so that, at some point in time, when I am a pain in the side of the government party, we have some clarity on what we adopted. I am taking a loophole away from myself, but I'm a stickler for procedure, Chair.
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
Thank you.
Actually, my request for approval for unanimous consent was to table them all together. If that's okay, we'll table them all together. Now we can open the floor for debate on each of the remaining routine motions.
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I have a question with regard to the addition of “Independent Members—Clause by Clause”. The purpose of this, I'm assuming, is just to ensure that, with regard to any amendments on bills that would be traditionally looked at in front of our committee, independent members would bring their amendments to committee as opposed to the House. If that's the intent of the addition, then we would support that.
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON
I was not in Parliament before 2015, but I was told there were some extended proceedings—
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
Nathaniel Erskine-Smith Liberal Beaches—East York, ON
There were motions and amendments brought at report stage, so I think it's to address that and make sure they're dealt with properly at committee.
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
Is there any other comment or debate on any of the routine motions before you?
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I actually would like to amend the motion, or add a section under televising, that all meetings of the committee, other than those deemed to be in camera, be televised or, if that is not possible, be webcast.
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
That is a new actual routine motion.
Can we go through these first, and then you can put forward a new motion if you like?
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I'm just asking to amend my colleague's motion by adding another section saying that all meetings of the committee, other than those deemed to be in camera, be televised or, if that is not possible, be webcast.
12:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
Is there any debate?
(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Since we've actually reviewed or gone through the debate on each of these motions, en masse, do you want us to vote on them en masse, or would you like to just vote on each of them individually?
Ms. Rempel Garner.
12:15 p.m.
Conservative
Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
Since I've moved that this be included in that, I would like a vote on the amendment. Then, if there's no further debate, we would move to a vote on the entirety of the routine motions.
12:20 p.m.
Conservative
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
For clarity, I'm going to review what we are voting on, all the routine motions. We've already voted on the analyst. The next one is the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure.
The next item deals with the reduced quorum.
Then we have the questioning of witnesses, document distribution, working meals and witnesses' expenses.
Then, in the following order, the motions address staff at in camera meetings, in camera meeting transcripts, notice of motions and, finally, independent members when considering amendments at clause-by-clause.
Of course, there is the amendment from Madam Rempel Garner with respect to televising all meetings when possible, and if not possible that they be webcast. Is that correct?
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
Are we all in agreement?
(Motion as amended agreed to)
At this point, we've conducted the business at hand. Does anyone have a notice of motion, or anything they'd like to bring forward? Otherwise we can adjourn until the next meeting.
Mr. Masse.
12:20 p.m.
NDP
Brian Masse NDP Windsor West, ON
I have a motion that I'll circulate to members. I'll read it quickly, if I can, and I'll send it to your offices. It depends on how quickly we want to get things to do into the discussion:
That the House of Commons Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology hold immediate hearings with the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Canada's telecommunications companies and other telecom experts and advocacy groups to better understand
a) the influx of fraud calls to Canadian home phones and cellular devices including robocalls, ghosts calls, and spam calls
b) to give an update on the success and failures of the national do not call list, and
c) to outline the September 2020 STIR/SHAKEN measures and how this will benefit Canadian consumers.
I'll send that to your offices to think about. This is related to all the spam you're getting on your phones and so forth. I've been working with the companies over the years and the Competition Bureau, whatever. I thought that maybe if we don't have something in front of us right away we could get some public attention on how to protect consumers. It's bad for our economy, and also for people's mental health, getting all these calls and different types of intimidation. We see our constituents with language barriers and seniors particularly targeted. I thought that a few hearings on it would bring some public attention. Even if we can't get some big solutions to it right now, we would at least bring some awareness to the issue to help Canadians.
That's the intent of the motion, even if we had just a few meetings. I'll circulate that to the offices and give it to the clerk as well.
12:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Sherry Romanado
Thank you, Mr. Masse.
We'll take that as a notice of motion. Please provide it to the clerk, who will have it officially translated and circulated to the committee.