This is the question of how to design a law that would specifically call something phone fraud, or wire fraud, as they call it in the United States, so that it's a separate fraud offence. You could think of things.
For example, at the moment, getting somebody to prosecute a fraud is difficult because you can't go back up the chain and make everybody who was involved in the calling—the actual person talking, and then the people who own and run this thing, whether they're in Canada or not—criminally liable for it. We might design a law that makes everybody in the calling operation have some level of criminal liability, so as to make it less attractive, less consequence-free, as Mr. Gamble said.