Evidence of meeting #12 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was minerals.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Greg Rickford  Minister, Ministry of Northern Development, Mines, Natural Resources and Forestry, Government of Ontario
Benoît Plante  Professor, Université du Québec en Abitibi-Témiscamingue, As an Individual
Peter Xavier  Vice-President, Sudbury INO, Glencore Canada
Josée Méthot  President and Chief Executive Officer, Québec Mining Association
Robert Kunihiro  Director, Strategy, StromVolt Americas Inc.
Amanda Hall  Geophysicist, Summit Nanotech Corporation
A. J. Nichols  Director, Corporate Affairs, Vale Canada Limited
Juan Merlini  Global Director, Sales and Marketing, Base Metals, Vale Canada Limited

5:45 p.m.

Geophysicist, Summit Nanotech Corporation

Amanda Hall

It's going to be challenging. Coming from the oil and gas sector, I saw this play out over the years. When your resource is more expensive than everybody else's, it's really hard to sell it. It's hard to sell it internationally. It's even hard to sell it in Canada. There's a reason why eastern Canada uses Saudi Arabian oil; it's cheaper than Alberta oil.

You can apply the same conceptual ideologies around lithium. If it costs me $8,000 to produce a tonne of lithium in Canada, but I can get it for $3,000 a tonne in Chile, why would I buy Canadian lithium?

I think the answer in the short term is to have the government subsidizing as much as possible our ability to innovate in the space and make sure that we get our operating costs down as low as possible. This happened in the shale gas sector as well. We drove down the cost of producing shale gas to a point where it was competitive. Competitive pricing and competitive production is a very important goal that we'll have to try to meet.

The other thing that's missing that Canada could probably step in and fill is that if you produce a tonne of lithium in Quebec today, you still have to transport that tonne of lithium to Asia to be turned into a cathode before it can go in a battery in the Gigafactory in Houston with Elon Musk. It has to go to Asia because there's no alternative here in North America. We don't do cathode manufacturing here and we need to in order to keep the supply chain local.

5:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Thank you very much. That was very interesting.

I want to thank all of the witnesses for taking the time this afternoon. It's been very useful for this committee.

I'd like to remind you that if you want to table any documents that you think might be useful for us, please feel free to do so through the clerk.

This meeting is adjourned.