I think that's a really good point, and thank you for the question.
The thing we've learned is that working towards gender equality is not just about fixing women. It is important that women have more skills, more education, and more access to credit to build their own businesses, but we know that we have to look at that relationship between women and men. That's where these discussions are so important.
I think we've learned that change happens over generations. Some of the most interesting discussions I've had on gender roles and inequalities have been with my two sons. I think this is the kind of discussion that happens inside families, inside different organizations, inside religious organizations. It's the changing of these social norms that happens over time.
That's why it's often the women's organizations that are the key players doing this. They know their local situation best. They know what kinds of arguments work in their communities. They can approach this issue in a very concrete and specific way and share strategies internally about what works. One of the best levers to move on changing social norms and social attitudes is a stronger support for women's rights organizations working at grassroots levels.