Evidence of meeting #35 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was julian.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Susan Baldwin  Procedural Clerk
Paul Robertson  Director General, North America Trade Policy, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Cindy Negus  Manager, Legislative Policy Directorate, Canada Revenue Agency

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

You're coaxing me along, Mr. Chair, and I understand that.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

My watch indicates that we are approaching one o'clock. The meeting will adjourn at one o'clock.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Yes, and I am on the fifth clause, Mr. Chair.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

As a courtesy to the officials, Mr. Julian, if you plan on continuing this at the next meeting, we won't have them come until such time as you're ready to actually deal with the bill.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I can certainly discuss that with you, Mr. Chair, after this hearing.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

If you could offer that courtesy, it would be much appreciated. They're very busy people and they have a lot to do.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I'd be very pleased to speak to you, Mr. Chair, and I'd be pleased to speak to the clerk about that.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

A point of order, Mr. LeBlanc.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Dominic LeBlanc Liberal Beauséjour, NB

Mr. Chairman, we have listened carefully and attentively to Mr. Julian's comments. We have heard other members,

including those of the Bloc québécois and the government,

suggest ways we can proceed to a substantive discussion on clause-by-clause.

Many members at this table--

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

That's not a point of order.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Please continue, Mr. LeBlanc.

12:55 p.m.

Liberal

Dominic LeBlanc Liberal Beauséjour, NB

Mr. Chairman, I'm asking you to explain what options you have as chair to bring this discussion to a democratic conclusion. Can we, for example--and I'm asking you, Mr. Chair--extend until question period and perhaps we can vote on Mr. Julian's amendments and Mr. Menzies' amendment?

On this side of the table, my colleagues in the Liberal Party are anxious to discuss substantive improvements to the bill. We don't find the current path is a particularly constructive way to do so. We're asking you, Mr. Chairman, to use what authority you have to try to bring this to a democratic conclusion, where members can express themselves on these motions, including the motions for amendments, and then we can proceed to a discussion in the House at third reading.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, order.

Mr. LeBlanc, on that, the chair's hands are somewhat tied. There could be a motion from a member of the committee to extend the time.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. We do have a motion, and I am speaking to the substance.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

So we could. If someone were to bring a motion like that we could vote on that motion and decide to continue the meeting beyond one o'clock.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, I do have the floor.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

No, Mr. Julian, you don't have the floor. We have a point of order and I'm dealing with that now, Mr. Julian.

Mr. Menzies, on this point of order.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

I would like to make a motion that we extend this meeting today until we get through this motion.

Can we do it as a point of order?

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

You can't do it as a point of order, but if someone were to move that motion....

Mr. Cannan.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

Ron Cannan Conservative Kelowna—Lake Country, BC

I'd like to move that we extend this meeting for one hour, until 2 p.m.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We have a motion before the committee to extend the time until question period.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

We have a substantive motion on the table.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Or until we vote on this motion...this was part of that motion as well, I guess.

12:55 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, we have a substantive motion. We are debating that motion. These are not points of order, with respect.

12:55 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Well, we can now deal with this motion, Mr. Julian.