Evidence of meeting #36 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dennis Seebach  Director, Administration and Technology Services, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Marc Toupin  Procedural Clerk
Mary McMahon  Senior Counsel, Legal Services Branch, Canada Revenue Agency
Michael Solursh  Counsel, Trade Law Bureau, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade
Cindy Negus  Manager, Legislative Policy Directorate, Canada Revenue Agency
Paul Robertson  Director General, North America Trade Policy, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We will go to the vote on NDP-52, clause 77.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

A point of order, Mr. Chair. A point of order. I challenge your decision.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We are on NDP-52, clause 77.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has a point of order.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

I have moved the motion and it is in order, absolutely. We have not passed the inability to have any motions whatsoever. We have eight people sitting here doing absolutely nothing because there is no due diligence. So I respectfully submit the motion so this committee can make the decision as to whether or not to send them home.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We are not allowing debate because we decided to carry out the motion that the committee voted on and passed, which is to be finished today before midnight. We've decided to proceed in this fashion without debate.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

This was not a decision of the committee. It was a decision of nobody that there be no debate and absolutely no questioning or improving of this legislation. It's just ram it through as it is. There was no motion adopted by this committee. I am moving a motion and I expect you to entertain that motion.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, there is no new point of order here.

Let's go to the vote on NDP-53, please.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

[Inaudible--Editor]...it's very simple. I am moving a motion to that effect. It is very simple and in order, and I would ask that you move the motion. If you choose not to move the motion, then what you are doing is an egregious violation of parliamentary rights and responsibilities.

This is absolutely the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I can understand why the government didn't want to televise this. Canadians would be absolutely appalled at what's going on right now. I have moved a motion.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Mr. Julian, I ask you for order at this committee.

7:10 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, I ask for respect. I have moved a motion.

7:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian, order.

Let's carry on. Let's go to the recorded division on clause 77.

7:15 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

[Inaudible--Editor]...without consulting us. We're just ramming it through. So given that there is no reason why they should be here, you must dismiss them. I have moved a motion. It is in order, as you know. I would ask that you put the motion forward. It's very simple, Mr. Chair. I'm not talking about a big issue here. I'm talking about an issue of respect for the eight people who are doing nothing because there is no way to consult them, and that's why I am asking that you move that motion.

Mr. Chair, I have moved a motion. It is in order and I challenge your decision on the motion.

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Clause 77 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We will go to the recorded division on NDP-54.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 78 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We've done clauses 79 and 80.

Let's go to the vote on amendment NDP-55 on clause 81.

7:15 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It appears that all of these amendments are in order for report stage now, because they have not been effectively considered by the committee. So for that I certainly thank you, Mr. Chair.

The Speaker will be receiving all of the amendments where debate was not allowed.

7:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We now move to amendment NDP-56.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall clause 81 carry? We'll go to a recorded division.

7:20 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It's a sad day for democracy, Mr. Chair, a very, very sad day for democracy. This has never happened in Canadian parliamentary history. It is the most disgusting sight that one could possibly imagine--

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Clause 81 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

For amendment NDP-57 on clause 82, we're going to a recorded division.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

We now go to NDP-58 for the recorded vote.

7:20 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, since none of these amendments is being treated in the appropriate fashion, they are all going to report stage--

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall clause 82 carry? We'll go to a recorded division.

7:20 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

It's absolutely appalling, Mr. Chair.

7:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Clause 82 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're going to clause 83, amendment NDP-59, for a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])