International Trade Committee on Nov. 7th, 2006

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

We go to NDP-60 for a recorded vote.

Democracy can be damned messy.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Democracy be damned, absolutely, Mr. Chair. That's what you said, and that's what you're absolutely right about. Democracy be damned--that's what's happening here tonight.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

“It can be messy”, is what I said.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

It's not messy; it's damned by--

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We go to NDP-61, for a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Shall clause 83 carry? Let's go to a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Clause 83 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

We'll go to amendment NDP-62 on clause 84 for a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll now go to NDP-63 for a recorded vote.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Mr. Chair, this is an appalling affront to democracy, and you should be embarrassed and ashamed of your role in this.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall clause 84 carry? Let's go to the recorded vote.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

This is the most thuggish attempt to stop parliamentarians from intervening on a bill that I've ever seen. I just cannot believe--

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Clause 84 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're on clause 85, NDP-63.1. Let's go to a recorded vote.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

Why even bother having votes, Mr. Chair? Why don't we just dispense with all that? What is the point of going through this charade of due diligence?

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We're going to amendment NDP-63.2 for a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has chosen to abstain.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Shall clause 85 carry? We'll go to a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Clause 85 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

We go to clause 86, starting with amendment NDP-64, for a recorded vote.

Mr. Julian has abstained.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

We'll go to amendment NDP-65 for a recorded vote.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(Clause 86 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings] )

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

We'll go to clause 87, amendment NDP-66, for a recorded vote.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I am abstaining, Mr. Chair, and calling a point of order.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian has abstained?

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I have, and I'm calling a point of order, Mr. Chair.

I hope that's not a glass of wine that I see in front of you, Mr. Chair, because that would be extremely inappropriate at a committee hearing.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

NDP-66 has failed.

(Amendment negatived [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll go to the point of order, Mr. Julian. I just wanted to complete the vote on NDP-66. Let's go to a point of order.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I certainly hope that is not a glass of wine that I see in front of you, Mr. Chair. That would be inappropriate when we're doing the country's business.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Mr. Julian, you should know better than that.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I certainly hope it isn't.

I am going to raise a point of order around the postponement of clauses. These clauses are not being treated with any due respect, so I would like to move that the next clause be postponed.

And you will check with the head table and you will see that that is in order.

[The Chair, Conservative, Leon Benoit]

Actually, I have received advice from the head table from the clerks, and they have rightly indicated that motions are not accepted at this time.

We'll go to a recorded vote on NDP-67.

[Peter Julian, NDP, Burnaby—New Westminster, BC]

I have no confidence in this vote. There has been no consideration of this clause, and the committee has no idea what it is doing, or not doing, with these clauses as we ramrod them through, Mr. Chair. So I am not going to--