I'll answer the first question first, and maybe turn to the clerk.
We're going to try to hear four witnesses. Because we don't have a lot of time, I want to hear four witnesses a meeting, and rather than trying to balance it out as we have in the past, if any balance is required, we're going to go with two business and two human rights groups separately rather than together. We'll give an hour to the first group and then an hour to the second group, I think, just to get more in and allow the committee to ask questions of each one in that regard.
With regard to your question about Mr. Georgetti, yes—it was suggested to me and to the committee—he offered to attend with us in Colombia. I responded to him that it wasn't the usual practice, that this is not a government mission and therefore membership doesn't include outside organizations. There are a number of reasons for that. I'm certainly willing to put it on the agenda for debate, but that hasn't been the practice in the past. This is a committee visit, and for logistical reasons and all other kinds, we are going to limit it to the committee.
If you would like to put it on the agenda for further discussion, I'm happy to do that, Mr. Julian, but that is how I responded. I've sent you a copy of my response to Mr. Georgetti.