Let me answer quickly all three questions.
First, in respect of the independence of those with whom the committee met, obviously I can't necessarily comment on that. But the reason why CALL is specifically urging this committee and the Government of Canada to only embark upon this free trade agreement after independent international human rights institutions have confirmed that Colombia is living up to its human rights commitments is precisely for this reason. We don't have the time to get into a debate and a back and forth about statistics and numbers, but it is essential that only truly independent organizations can be relied upon in an environment like Colombia to provide you with reliable advice.
Your second question related to the Colombian government rewarding or encouraging criminal activity. There's no question that the Colombian government is, as I'm sure you witnessed, actively seeking to promote a free trade agenda with Canada, with the United States, and with others. The Colombian government clearly believes that the free trade agenda will ultimately serve its purposes. It's not clear to me, at least, that the Colombian government really cares, frankly, whether or not foreign investment acts in accordance with, for example, accepted corporate social responsibility norms. Frankly, I think they have another agenda.
Third, on your question related to fines, I think this is precisely the point. If this committee is going to consider a free trade agreement with the Government of Colombia, this committee needs to think about whether or not the provisions of that agreement are actually going to do something to improve the labour rights situation in Colombia, whether or not there is going to be a sufficient deterrent on the Government of Colombia to actually act and stop these labour rights violations that are taking place in Colombia. In our view, given the previous hemispheric trade agreements and given all of the information we have about the likely content of this trade agreement, the answer to those questions has to be no. There is simply not going to be any incentive on the Government of Colombia to improve the human rights and labour rights situation in Colombia.