And we have. On our issue around shipbuilding, we've gone through the issue and we understand that it's not good for shipbuilding in Canada. I said it's going to devastate us. I don't know how else I can be clear. The tariff is there. It's not working now. The phase-out is not good for our industry. I think we've been through the agreement and we clearly know it's not good for shipbuilding.
On February 12th, 2009. See this statement in context.