Yes. As you know, the Irving shipyards have said that this deal will be catastrophic for the shipbuilding industry. There are actually no members of the Canadian Council of Chief Executives who are impacted in the shipbuilding domain. That's important for the committee to know.
I would like to continue. I would like to take issue with your comments around the “buy American” provisions and the strongest opposition coming from the American business community itself. As you well know, those were businesses in the United States that actually had strong operations. We're very much in favour of the “buy American” provisions. The companies that had essentially shut down their American operations and moved overseas for sweat-shop operations were the companies that were opposing “buy American”. Regardless of the fact that there was as much support in the American business community as opposition, the reality is that the Democrats were elected on a fair trade mandate. That is why “buy American” got through. “Buy American” is there. It hasn't been opposed by President Obama. Quite the contrary, he was very supportive of that. I take issue with your comments around that. Would you not agree that it's a bit misleading to say that there was opposition from the American business community when the American business community was divided on this issue?
Secondly, we have President Obama. He's made a call for fair trade, for renegotiating NAFTA on a fair trade model. There are stronger labour and environmental provisions reducing the negative impacts of things like chapter 11. Do you support or oppose that approach on NAFTA?