I'm sorry.
If you wish to do that now, you must ask the following question: “Is the chair's ruling sustained?”
If you want to proceed, you ask, “Is the chair's ruling sustained?” It is based on what is in Marleau and Montpetit.
Evidence of meeting #5 for International Trade in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was decision.
A recording is available from Parliament.
The Clerk
I'm sorry.
If you wish to do that now, you must ask the following question: “Is the chair's ruling sustained?”
If you want to proceed, you ask, “Is the chair's ruling sustained?” It is based on what is in Marleau and Montpetit.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
There is the challenge: is the chair's ruling sustained by the committee?
(Ruling of the chair sustained)
Conservative
Bloc
Serge Cardin Bloc Sherbrooke, QC
I would like to raise a point. When you asked the clerk to slow down as you were speaking, you proved how difficult this can be. Personally, I understood the clerk very well when she was speaking French. However, when she began to speak English, there was a long delay before the simultaneous interpretation was heard. The interpreter, unfortunately, ended up with a partial sentence that did not mean anything at all. I must therefore repeat what I said at the beginning of the meeting: people must learn to breathe deeply through their noses and speak more slowly, in order to allow the interpreters to do their job. This element has to be taken into consideration. Following that, when the time comes to make decisions and vote, everyone would be aware of the issues, on the same wavelength, and able to make enlightened decisions. This is what I hope for because if you want to have my cooperation throughout the session, until the summer, you will have to take that into account. It is a priority for me.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
I thank you for that, Monsieur Cardin. Your point is well taken, and I found myself speaking to the clerk in that regard. I think the committee now understands, and we'll try to do that.
Mr. Silva, on a point of order.
Liberal
Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON
Mr. Chair, first of all I want to say that it's not my practice to challenge the chair and I appreciate the fact that you've been a good chair. I apologize, but there's been a bit of confusion over here in the sense that I'm following the lead of my vice-chair of the committee. We're supposed to not be voting, to abstain, and I think we need to have that vote again. Nothing against you, Mr. Chair, of course.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
The matter again is not dissimilar to the previous one, a matter to be dealt with has been dealt with, voted and dealt with, so there we go.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
Thanks anyway, Mr. Silva.
Mr. Julian, we have a list of points of order, and the next one goes to Mr. Harris.
Conservative
Dick Harris Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC
Mr. Chair, with all due respect to my colleagues across the way, we have had a parliamentary secretary waiting patiently while the political back and forth has gone on here. I'm sure the parliamentary secretary has much better things to do than sit here and listen to the back-and-forth games of the opposition party.
At least, Mr. Chair, if they plan to continue, would you as the chair give our parliamentary secretary the option of leaving to do better things, if those are what he has to do? There's no reason he should have to sit here while these guys play their games.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
Well, I think we appreciate all of the witnesses who come before the committee, particularly the witnesses who were called by the members who are now raising points of order.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, as you know, we can ask for a recorded vote on votes. For the purposes of the vote that has just been taken, I request a recorded vote. Very clearly, Mr. Chair, there are members here who were voting in an opposite way to what they intended.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
We've heard that expressed. The recorded vote clarifies that issue, Mr. Chair, so I request a recorded vote.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Lee Richardson
Well, Mr. Julian, I think a recorded vote has to be requested before a vote is taken. In this case, the vote has been taken, the decision has been made, and we're moving on.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, on a point of order, I then challenge your decision.
Conservative
An hon. member
My point has been made, Chair, that the recorded vote has to be requested before the vote is taken, and Mr. Julian knows that better than anybody around the room.
Conservative
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
No, I have challenged your decision. That's not debatable, as you know. So we proceed to a vote on your decision.