I have my issues and disagreements with the ILO, but if I can comment on the specific proposition you're making, there is no question that in some sectors of Colombian society there has been a diminution of violence. I don't dispute that. I know the Colombian government makes that claim, and that is correct.
I would point out, however, that on the issue of displaced persons, there appears to have been little to no progress, and it may be as bad now as it has ever been.
Indeed, you mentioned earlier today the popularity of the Uribe government and his political party. I would attribute a large amount of that popularity to the fact that there has been some diminution in the violence, particularly in urban areas. In the countryside, though, it continues to be an incredibly violent place. In general, Colombia continues to be a very violent place. I don't think any credible person can seriously dispute that.
I think when you're looking at Canadian investment in Colombia, with due respect to the other witnesses here today, the bulk of that investment is likely to be in the extractive industries, in my respectful view. Those extractive industries are going to be active in rural Colombia, where there continues to be an enormous amount of violence, and again I make no comment about the causes or roots of that violence. So that's really what you have to be concerned about.