My last question is to Mr. Peppard.
You indicated that you weren't involved in the negotiations. We asked the minister, who was kind enough to meet with us the other day, and he indicated that stakeholders were involved--the Canadian Federation of Independent Business. We had a statement from Mr. Buda who said that they weren't involved in the negotiations. So for me, and for my constituents who are asking me, what really happened? Were they involved or were they not? Do you know? As a third party, can you clarify it for us?