I have no idea. It will be revealed in the negotiations. It's very hard to discern from the joint study.
You know, they use language, which I'm sure comes from Japan, about being sensitive to each other's concerns, but that language turns up in reports of the Australian discussions as well. So I would fully expect....
First of all, coming back to CGE modelling—whatever its flaws are—the joint study reveals very small benefits, so let's look at the magnitude of the benefits relative to the effort.
My concern, coming back to the previous questioner, is that TPP may not happen, but it might, and we will be in a very, very difficult position if we're left out of it.
I see these negotiations as not producing a heck of a lot of liberalization, partly because of politics in Japan probably for the next several years, but the strategic dimension of being willing to talk about everything is not lost on everybody else who's already involved in the TPP.
I listened to some of the counsel from the other two contributors: Who do we think we are? We're far too inward-looking. We're not thinking about this in terms of a larger strategic gain.