Just from the chair's perspective, that's the whole idea of having a more informal setting afterwards, to extend the time with them so we do have fulsome debate. My experience is that you'll get more out of that two-way communication than you will in the half-hour formal sitting. Actually, the formal sitting is more to tease ourselves with regard to the questions we maybe want to probe with them in a deeper way in a more informal setting. I think we can do justice with it in that way rather than in a whole hour of formal sitting. That's my view.
Is there any debate? I think we've heard everything.