I have a hard time answering that question.
What I can tell you is the way these four other Latin American countries see it is that if they integrate economically to the extent that they are planning to do, they will get, for example, more investments from oil and gas companies from Malaysia that would integrate all their operations with respect to Mexico, Colombia, Peru, and Chile. You would have a harmonization of education standards, for example; you would have engineers from Chile moving to Mexico, and so on. That would allow the companies perhaps to invest more than otherwise. If Canada were to join that group, that would also permit Canadian engineers to work without much paperwork in Colombia, Peru, or Mexico for the Malaysian oil and gas company. That is a little bit of what they are planning.
Would that be a significant percentage of gain for Canadians on the ground and for the aggregate Canadian economy? I am afraid not. Canada's economy is so much bigger than the economies of most of these other countries, except for Mexico, so when you are making an FTA or any kind of trade negotiation or liberalization, you have to come to an incredibly good agreement to actually gain something when you are an economy as big as Canada's.
When you are Chile, or Peru, you can actually get more substantial results with agreements that are less ambitious. What I was trying to say is that, now that tariffs are gone, and trade and investment have become integrated in ways they were not before, if we want to make changes to get more trade and investment with Asia, the changes that we need to make are much more internal. The choice to make is whether we are going to do it with the Pacific Alliance or with the TPP. Eventually those changes may have to be made.