I think it's really difficult to assess the impact of a particular agreement there. The only way of assessing it is, does it actually lead to more international business, more flights, more travellers, and more cargo that is being shipped? At the end of the day, that's the key performance indicator, I think.
But the other problem here is that there are so many factors that could lead to whether that agreement is being used to the maximum extent that it could be, and not just commercial.... There are two areas I'd like to flag that I think are right now operating as major constraints on air travel, both cargo and passenger. The first is the security and the regulations around security. The second area, which is tied to that, is the rules around business travel and business visas, both of which are probably more problematic today than they were five years ago.
I'm always surprised when I have a business audience and I ask how many people are travelling on NEXUS. A lot of people put up their hands. Then I ask how many people travelling on a NEXUS card go into secondary inspection. It's amazing how many people put up their hands. Then I ask how many of the people who are not on NEXUS go into secondary inspection, and hardly any of them put up their hands.
The immigration inspectors are stopping people to see if they're compliant with a regulatory program that is supposed to let them enter a country with no holdups at all. We need to focus on what's important here on the security. Unfortunately, we're in a process right now where we've lost the risk management side of that.