I'll gladly sit down with you because the reality is that a Canadian auto worker is priced the same as an American auto worker. The last set of negotiations when we put in a 10-year hiring-in grid makes us even cheaper.
Two things have really negatively impacted the auto industry. Number one is one-way trade. You talked about Japan and South Korea. The reality is they dump on our markets and we have no opportunity to sell in theirs. The issue isn't free trade. It's fair trade. We want you to talk about fair trade.
Number two, on the whole issue of the CAW, you will find that during the auto recession an equivalent number of plants in Canada were affected, as they were in the United States. So there isn't some big, heavy slap at the CAW that somehow we chased jobs out of town.
The auto industry crisis was caused by the banking industry crisis. When Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and when the financial sector collapsed, we went from 17 million vehicles to 7 million vehicles. Plants are going to close. It's about economics.