As far as my company, Emovi, is concerned, we have dealt with the trade commissioner service. A trade commissioner based in Montreal introduced us to commissioners in the U.S., China and Australia. We also had the opportunity to meet those commissioners in person. Just this morning, in fact, I met with the Beijing trade commissioner. For us, the service they provide is one-of-a-kind. They understand our needs and are part of our team. I've been working with them for a number of years, since we began the commercialization process.
Like Mr. Hall, we sought the help of the BDC, but the bank viewed us as too high risk, so we used venture capital, and the Royal Bank of Canada gave us a line of credit with EDC providing the guarantee.
I don't know if they're like that everywhere, but the people we've dealt with at the trade commissioner service and EDC are enthusiastic and understand business owners and their needs. They take the time to do things properly and respond quickly. They've done a lot to help us.