Thanks, Terry.
First of all, we don't support tariffs. We want these things eliminated outright on both sides. That said, they're in existence, so as we said earlier, we need to retaliate proportionately. Where steel can't be made in Canada, we need to inflict pain, unfortunately, on U.S. consumers of steel so they create the impetus in the States to reverse these decisions. Until you see that, they don't give a heck about us. They don't care about us. They don't care about our profitability.
I sit with CEOs of the U.S. steel mills at the American Iron and Steel Institute, and they're laughing. They're laughing. They're making all kinds of money. They don't care about Canada. They don't care about their steel shipments into Canada. Therefore, we need to inflict pain on U.S. steel consumers, unfortunately. That's where the pain has to be felt. The insurrection has to happen in the U.S., not in Canada.