Okay.
I'm not saying there aren't programs out there. What I was saying is that these programs are not available to some of our SMEs who need them the most. The challenge I have as we move forward.... I don't know if you have these numbers. These are probably Finance's numbers. I would be curious, through the chair, whether we need to ask Finance how much we've collected. Looking at the two schedules that we have and the different rates of 25 and 10, I calculate that we'll collect somewhere around $2 billion, plus or minus. But what is actually going out the door in terms of relief or drawback? I don't mean additional loans, because, guess what, those all have to be paid back, and we're grateful for them. They do provide a niche, but that's not exactly what we're looking at.
When I look at the $1.7 billion through loans, when I look at the $250,000,000 that went through the strategic innovation fund, I don't see a lot of things because it's case by case. By the way, it's a surtax that's being charged, not a duty, so it makes it tough to be eligible for duty remission or duty drawback programs.
What types of programs are we making available to our SMEs that wouldn't require them to pay back some of the unfair and illegal tariffs that were mentioned, given the fact that the tax is actually a surtax? It's not a tariff, so it's not eligible for duty drawback?
Does anyone want to tackle this?
I need more than five minutes. I can't do this in five minutes.
Anyway, go ahead.