I am very opinionated about that, so I will temper my approach to it. The announcement was that $2 billion was going to become available. That was just in our backyard in Hamilton, I believe at ArcelorMittal Dofasco.
We've done a lot of looking around, a lot of research, a lot of digging around to understand how we can access some of that to improve our innovation, and I believe that's where it is. We've had a difficult time gaining transparency to that. The one area we have been approached is by the EDC, who I believe has taken a very substantial chunk of that $2 billion. We have had dealings with the EDC in the past, and I'm not going to knock them, but at this particular point I don't need a bank to lend me money because the government has implemented policies that are drawing back my profitability and cash flow. It's like the government implementing policies that are constraining your paycheque. You can't pay your mortgage payments anymore, but they'll let a bank lend you money.
That's not what we're looking for. We're a free enterprise. We'd like to move forward with this. If there are programs out there, please work very diligently to make them more visible and transparent to us.