Evidence of meeting #27 for International Trade in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was tpp.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Gus Van Harten  Professor of Law, Osgoode Hall Law School, York University, As an Individual
Victoria Owen  Chief Librarian, University of Toronto Scarborough, Canadian Association of Research Libraries
John Masswohl  Director, Government and International Relations, Canadian Cattlemen's Association
Scott Sinclair  Senior Research Fellow, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives
Hassan Yussuff  President, Canadian Labour Congress
David Podruzny  Vice-President, Business and Economics and Board Secretary, Chemistry Industry Association of Canada

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Mr. Sinclair, do you favour NAFTA or any trade agreement?

10:15 a.m.

Senior Research Fellow, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

Scott Sinclair

The approach I would favour is perhaps the one that Canada took when it negotiated the free trade agreement with EFTA, that is, with Iceland and Switzerland and countries outside the European Union. It's essentially a tariff liberalization agreement that relied mainly on the World Trade Organization to address all these other issues around services and investment and standard-setting.

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

So if we were negotiating NAFTA right now, would you counsel the Government of Canada to sign NAFTA?

10:15 a.m.

Senior Research Fellow, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

Scott Sinclair

I was involved in the debate on NAFTA and critical of that agreement, but at the time if I'd known more about investor-state dispute settlement, I think I would have been even more opposed to it.

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Okay. So you favour international trade—maybe.

10:15 a.m.

Senior Research Fellow, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

Scott Sinclair

No, you're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that the many regulatory issues that have been glommed onto international trade negotiations have provided a very convenient way for corporate lobbyists to get regulatory changes they find difficult to achieve through the front door of the democratic process.

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

I don't often hear—

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Your time is up.

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Okay.

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Gee, for a new guy on our committee, you're chomping at the bit.

10:15 a.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

10:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

That wraps up our dialogue today, folks.

Thank you very much for coming. This has been a very active meeting with good dialogue and good questions from the MPs. Enjoy the rest of your day. If you have anything else you want to send to us to be put into the report, feel free to pass it along.

We're going to suspend for a few minutes and then go in camera.

[Proceedings continue in camera]