International Trade Committee on Oct. 18th, 2016

[Randy Hoback, Conservative, Prince Albert, SK]

No, I mean a recorded vote on the motion itself.

[Kyle Peterson, Liberal, Newmarket—Aurora, ON]

We don't want to vote on it unless we're in camera.

[Some hon. members]

Why not?

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

It can be open. The clerk can explain, instead of just going back and forth. Let him explain. Then we don't need to....

[Tracey Ramsay]

Why not have the vote?

[The Clerk of the Committee, Mr. Rémi Bourgault]

I just want to make sure I give you the right explanation. The question is to know if a vote done in camera will be available publicly or not at all. Am I far off?

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

There are two questions. Number one, can this motion be in camera or not in camera? We are in committee right now.

[The Clerk]

Yes, it's before the committee, and we are in public.

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

First of all, the motion can go in public. Is that right?

[The Clerk]

Yes.

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

Okay, that's good. That's fine.

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

Is there any more comment on this motion?

[Dave Van Kesteren, Conservative, Chatham-Kent—Leamington, ON]

Mr. Chair, I wonder if we can have a friendly amendment and just add “due to the fact that during the last election the Liberals didn't go door to door and tell people that they were going to have a carbon tax”. Maybe we could add that to it. Mr. Fonseca would probably like to see that in the motion as well.

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

All right. There's an amendment to your friend's motion. I don't know how that's all going to roll.

Anyway, is there further discussion?

Go ahead, Mr. Peterson.

[Kyle Peterson, Liberal, Newmarket—Aurora, ON]

I'm going to move that we go in camera, given the nature of this motion.

[Randy Hoback, Conservative, Prince Albert, SK]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

Go ahead, Mr. Hoback.

[Randy Hoback, Conservative, Prince Albert, SK]

Again it comes back to the fact that I'm not sure why we're going in camera. This has already been read into the record. It's something that you've talked about. Why would the committee of the Liberals be scared of talking about this in public, and why would they be scared of not showing their hands and votes in public?

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

We are not.

[Kyle Peterson, Liberal, Newmarket—Aurora, ON]

Anyway, I've made the motion.

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

There's a motion on the floor that we go in camera.

All in favour?

[An hon. member]

My motion takes precedence, Mr. Chair. You have to deal with the motion first.

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

No, you can go in camera at any time.

[Sukh Dhaliwal, Liberal, Surrey—Newton, BC]

Let the clerk explain all the....

[The Chair, Liberal, Mark Eyking]

That's what I thought.

Go ahead.