Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you for the presentations. It's always interesting to chat with you.
I'm in a little bit of quandary. The last presenter we had from the Business Council of Canada said that their modelling showed a $60 billion gain with TPP. I asked, “What's the downside, what's the erosion factor on jobs and investment if we don't ratify TPP?” Does anybody have a comment on that?