I guess I'd start by saying that economic studies can be made to say all kinds of things. It depends on the economist you hired at any given time. I have a lot of respect for economists, but I don't put a lot of faith in any numbers they throw out. They use a variety of input and output models that are frankly guesses at best. There is no solid model.
We haven't seen any number that we actually believe is true. We think this will provide real opportunities if we get the framework right and that it could grow jobs and investment in Canada. I'm not really sure I buy into the job-loss numbers.
On the other side of things, in terms of support network, if you look at South Korea, which isn't in the deal right now but, as Mr. Beatty said, might be in the future, it has an entire manufacturing strategy that focuses on a couple of core sectors of the economy. We talk about not picking winners and losers, but they picked a couple of winners and they're winning. They picked technology and transportation as the areas they wanted to focus on. Their entire government support network went into supporting companies in those areas and allowing them to export value-added products out of South Korea.
They supported them through direct investment supports. People can call them subsidies or anything else, but investment supports happen in most sectors around the world. The regulatory system was set up to support them. The education system was set up to support them to make sure they're getting the talent they want. Then a trade commissioner service type of body was set up specifically to help those companies in those sectors find new market opportunities abroad and they are very active in finding and connecting South Korean companies with those opportunities.
The same thing has happened in Vietnam. I've met with Vietnamese officials on a regular basis, and now they can trade with Canada more. In Japan it's the same thing.
We have bits and pieces of those types of support in Canada, but they've never really been pulled together into a complete package. There are a lot of things—