Evidence of meeting #46 for International Trade in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was going.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Philippe Méla  Legislative Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Rémi Bourgault
Pierre Marc Johnson  Chief Negotiator of the Government of Québec for the Canada-European Union Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) and Counsel, Lavery, de Billy, As an Individual
Jason Langrish  Executive Director, Canada Europe Round Table for Business
Louise Barrington  Fellow and Chartered Arbitrator, Chartered Institute of Arbitrators, As an Individual
Martin Valasek  Partner, Norton Rose Fulbright Canada LLP, As an Individual

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Kyle Peterson Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON

What does the amendment replace, Mr. Clerk? Can you clarify that?

11:10 a.m.

Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

It replaces the 12 meetings.

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Go ahead.

11:10 a.m.

The Clerk

The amendment will replace the words “consist of at least 12 meetings”, and it will allow people who have already submitted their requests to appear to submit written submissions by November 30. We discussed about setting a maximum length of 10 pages, which was the length that we accepted for TPP. The rest of the motion will be close to the same.

The written submissions, once translated, will be distributed to committee members, and they will be published on the website. That part doesn't change much.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

In no way will it be able to impede the clause-by-clause consideration on December 6.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

That's why there's the deadline of November 30, Peter.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Peter Fonseca Liberal Mississauga East—Cooksville, ON

Even if the translation ends up being delayed, that cannot impede the December 6 clause-by-clause study.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

That's right. We're sticking to December 6, regardless.

11:15 a.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I just want to speak on the record that I feel this guts the spirit of the motion that I brought forward, but we'll vote on the amendment.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Are we ready to vote again?

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 8; nays 1)

11:15 a.m.

A voice

Now we have to vote on the motion.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Sukh Dhaliwal Liberal Surrey—Newton, BC

It's the motion as amended.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Yes, that's right.

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Can you read the motion as amended?

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

Kyle Peterson Liberal Newmarket—Aurora, ON

While you read it, we should get the translation.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Can you read the motion as amended?

11:15 a.m.

The Clerk

It will have to be reworked, because it was done on the floor.

Pursuant to the motion of Tuesday, November 1, adopted by the Standing Committee on International Trade to study the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement, the motion is “that the chair publish a news release on the committee's website, inviting Canadians to submit their views on the CETA in writing”—

No, just a second. “That the Chair publish a news release”— well, it's not even a news release. It's not necessary. It's that “people who requested to appear before the committee, before the beginning of the meeting today, be allowed to submit a written submission”—

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Of no more than 10 pages—

11:15 a.m.

The Clerk

—“of no more than 10 pages, before November 30 at 5 p.m.; and that the written submissions, once translated, be distributed to members of the committee.”

11:15 a.m.

Conservative

Gerry Ritz Conservative Battlefords—Lloydminster, SK

Add “and that these written submissions will in no way impede the clause-by-clause on December 6.” That was Peter's.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Go ahead, Madam Ramsey.

11:15 a.m.

NDP

Tracey Ramsey NDP Essex, ON

I just have to say that it is extremely anti-democratic to say that we're going to cut off submissions on a date that's passed already. There's going to be no opportunity for anyone now to say they'd like to send a written submission to this committee. There's going to be no opportunity, no posting, for anyone to know that we would have accepted anything written to this committee. That's never been expressed to the Canadian people.

This smacks in the face the Liberal government with its vision of transparency and openness with Canadians. You're cutting off Canadians from having the ability to engage at the committee level, and I cannot support the gutting of the motion in this way.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

We know the new motion, and we'll have a recorded vote on it right now.

(Motion as amended agreed to: yeas 8; nays 1)

Order.

Sorry for the delay, folks.

This is the process. On video conference, we have people from France, the United Kingdom, Montreal, and Toronto. Welcome, folks. I would do a bigger introduction, but our time is limited. I would also let the MPs know that Mr. Johnson can only be with us for another 45 minutes, or something like that.

11:15 a.m.

Pierre Marc Johnson Chief Negotiator of the Government of Québec for the Canada-European Union Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) and Counsel, Lavery, de Billy, As an Individual

I have maybe 48 minutes, Chair.

11:15 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Mark Eyking

Okay, so if MPs have questions pertaining to you, they should ask those questions in the first round.

Without further ado, we'll start off with Mr. Johnson. Go ahead.