Certainly.
You did mention the earlier question for Mr. Mell on whether you have the workforce to be able to mine the cobalt. For Tim McMillan at CAPP, they're still going to need oil and gas workers. They're not shutting the taps off right now. We need to make sure there's that expertise keeping that oil and gas sector and that mining sector going, but also working towards these new technologies.
An industrial plan, like you said, has to include workers. It has to include training and not just assume that they have the knowledge to go from one to the other, but to be able to have a plan ahead of time and invest in training centres. Invest and make sure that these programs we offer, whether it's EV training on insulation of electrical vehicles.... In Joe Biden's address down in the United States, when he talked about EV's, he talked about jobs for IBEW members specifically because we are the first and foremost trusted brand when it comes to electricians.
It's going to those known commodities such as us and others that are able to provide a workforce, upskill that workforce and making sure that when start-ups need skilled workers—whether it's to build something or build, maintain and operate it—we have it there. They're not waiting, having built it, but then not having the workers.