It's hard for me to give specifics, both in terms of that particular fund and overall in terms of the money that needs to go toward all of this. I don't have a good estimate at this time of what that looks like.
I think the main thing is to develop a comprehensive policy to look at it similarly to how the U.S. is looking at it. That is, essentially, as a green industrial policy in which action on climate is tied in with job creation, with a particular emphasis on creating good union jobs.
There are a host of measures. We need to expand on some of the things we've seen. We started to see some tax credits and other types of incentives for clean energy and that type of stuff. As some of the others have said today, it's not always exactly clear. Some of the rules in that are not as clear as what we've seen in the IRA.
I think what we need to see is more clarity on various tax incentives. We need green procurement policies. We've started to see them, but we need stronger ones that ensure we're using clean steel, aluminum, wood and cement in infrastructure projects, and we must ensure they will create good jobs here in Canada.
Again, we need policy concurrence across the spectrum. That includes on trade, where we're making sure we have things like carbon border adjustments or other things so that we're not undercutting our own domestic manufacturing by bringing things in from abroad that are cheaper and that are poor for the environment and poor in terms of labour.
It's hard for me to quantify exactly what that looks like, but I think what we need is clear, comprehensive planning that connects climate policy with job creation.