Thank you, Madam Chair.
Mr. Ahmadi and Mr. Kovrig, thank you for being with us. I am very pleased to meet you. I think my colleagues have been full of praise for you concerning what you went through. I hear a lot of wisdom in what you're saying. What you experienced probably brought you that wisdom.
My question is for both of you, and I'll give you a chance to answer quickly, but before I do so, I would like to say that I worked in banks for 20 years, from 2000 to 2020. I was working in banks when they were telling companies to go to China, and also when they were telling them to start taking their business out of China. I've experienced that on the bankers' side.
Today, we find ourselves in a situation where I feel a great deal of caution. I hear what you're saying, Mr. Kovrig.
I am looking at it from the perspective of companies that think there is an opportunity to do business in China. They wonder whether they should go back there or not. If they go back, how should they do it? Many don't want to go back to the movie in which they have already appeared. They don't want to have to withdraw from there like they have done in the past.
I would like you to quickly tell us what your recommendations are. I sense that there is interest in going back and doing business in China, but it has to be done carefully.
I invite Mr. Ahmadi to answer first, followed by Mr. Kovrig, for up to two minutes each.