It's been said. We don't have any tariff barriers in Canada. The provinces and territories are all part of the same country. When I said that there are fewer trade barriers for internal trade than for international trade, I meant that unions thought, during NAFTA negotiations, that protections for wages and workers weren't robust enough. Chapter 9 on protecting workers wasn't strong enough. When CUSMA was renegotiated, worker protections were reinforced, but the actual mechanisms weren't.
We need freedom of trade, but individuals who cross interprovincial borders, who are working and who ensure that trade works also need the freedom that comes with decent jobs, decent wages and the right to associate. That has to be respected, and there can be no social dumping.
I gave the rolling mill example. I would completely agree with anyone who would suggest that we should have a rolling mill to make our own aluminum cans. However, considering our geography and our population of 40 million, if it has to be installed in Winnipeg and the cans have to be sent 3,000 kilometres one way and 4,000 kilometres the other way, the issue isn't trade barriers or regulations, it's the sheer geographical size of the domestic market. That's why Mr. Carney wants to sign contracts all across Canada.